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Which 101? Why?

  • 23 Dec 2015 4:57 AM
    Message # 3715625
    Anonymous

    Is there a more sought after 101 year, and why.  I see much desirable commentary, circulating the '29 year model scout.  Can anyone elaborate on this.  Thanks Danny 

  • 23 Dec 2015 9:32 AM
    Reply # 3715933 on 3715625
    Tim Raindle (Administrator)

    Hi Danny, I like 28s. 29s have drop centre rims and no compression release rod thru the tank, thats about the only difference from the first year. 1930 there were minor cosmetic changes ( headlight, hinged rear fender ) 31 has a different rear brake arrangment, , slightly different frame to suit, and styling changes to bars and headlight, as well as a slightly different oil pump. The motors are all the same, its really a matter of personal choice. I prefer the slightly cleaner antique  look of the pre 31s, some people prefer the "thirties more than twenties " look of the 31.

    AT the end of the day, it is often a case of just getting hold of whatever year you can !

  • 24 Dec 2015 10:24 AM
    Reply # 3717755 on 3715625
    Deleted user

    It was my experience that the most desirable one was the only one I could find!

    I pounced on the first I found which happened to be a '28, but i would have bought any 101 from 28-31 and been equally happy.

  • 26 Feb 2016 4:02 PM
    Reply # 3846543 on 3715625
    Anonymous

    Thank you for your replies.  What is meant by drop centre rims ?

  • 27 Feb 2016 9:40 AM
    Reply # 3847818 on 3715625

    Modern tires has to have a ditch in the center of the rim because the bead is reinforced with a bundle of steel wires that makes the tire bead stiff. In order to pry the tire bead over the rim edge, a portion of the bead has to go in the ditch, the "drop center" of the rim.

    Clincher tires is like push bike tires with a callus bead that interlocks with flanges in the rim, and there is no need for the ditch in the center.

  • 07 May 2016 1:06 PM
    Reply # 4008118 on 3715625

    One small disadvantage to the 31 model is that the max. drive gear ratio is lower than previous years. This is due to the new internal rear brake drum arrangement. The drum has the sprocket riveted to it and I believe is 43 teeth. That's the smallest sprocket that will fit. The transmission sprocket size is limited by the chain guard, i believe 22 teeth is the max that will fit. The primary helical drive ratio is the same as 28-30. The end result is a much lower gear ratio that can't be changed. So top speed and highway cruising speed is reduced a fair bit unless you want to wind her up! By looking at the gear ratio tables in the 31 book, max high gear ratio for the 101 is 4.98/1 which is pretty low! The Chief and 4 both got the new rear wheel in 31 also. The Chief primary gear ratio was changed in 31 to reflect the larger rear sprocket, so it's still possible to get a final drive ratio of 4.21/1. The 4  is 3.94/1.  I think I can squeeze a 23 tooth sprocket into the chief primary, giving almost 4.0/1.


    Anyway, all years of the 101 are good bikes!


    Gene

  • 08 May 2016 3:22 AM
    Reply # 4008427 on 3715625

    That's right, but I read somewhere that 19" drop center rims was a factory option for the Scout, same rims as the Chief was equipped with, and that would help a bit.

    4.00-18" cocker has a diameter of 26" with 35 psi and that gives a circumference of 81.64" according to Steve Blanchards "Calculations in Corbin speedo drivelines". My 19" Avon SM 400-19" is to my best calculations 26,83" in diameter and that gives 84.3" in circumference.

    Plus 2.66 inch on every tire revolution. 19" tire equals over one cog less for the 43 cog gearing. With the earlier 36 cog gearing it equals exactly as having a 35 cog rear sprocket with the 18" tire. 

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